Extra Ordinary Abilities ....hmmmm ya ke YAA ??

yeap......they do have the abilities,Counselor Tuan Hj. !!! Here's the NEWS. Fast decision .... YAA? Very wise indeed.

See how agressive the new generation could be YAA ?
Probablly,Yang Arif need a FaceBook.com to find the real grassroots youth thought.

This is what the legal terminology the 'Inquistorial Legal System' I reckon.
Another appeal I wonder ?
Could you unshackle the schackles Yang Arif ?
All the Law student at all Law Faculty is observing the decision YAA !!

Another legal question Yang Arif?
Can the monach be impreach for wrongful decison made in his official duty.
Yes,as at it is now ,the answer is 'NO' according to our law.

BUT,Yang Arif,what if in the future, the err is so grave while executing His Mejestic official duty and it caused a great hardship to the citizen?
Probably,a new obitar on such an issue need to be address for future reference,YAA.

If,and only if the law said other wise,what would the remedy be?
For acedemic reasoning,history been refresh
King Edward V111 abdicate his throne for the love of Mrs.Wallis Simpson.
A gentlemen act indeed.

You the Wise one YAA.

Who Is Ras Muhammad ? - Riddim man Riddim

hmmmm....check this guy up.Link Here
Give him the pick and time another Iwan Fals in the making.

Riddim man riddim.You gonne dong kit man.

Jom Naik Haji Tahun Ini Mr.President Obama !!

Jom naik Haji tahun ini Mr.President!!

Tag along our Prime Minister Najib and bring along the 2 MB's from our silver state and the Sultan as well

Hey,Mr.President did you know your step grand mum and uncle are going too this year ?

Here's the link.

I wanna go for the 2nd.time, Ya Alah.

Pray for peace Mr.

Money is dry man !!

Happy Day a Bit !!!

hmmmmm...a bit smiling faces.

Right....roger and what next ?

The law application was right Yang Arif.

Appeal,you may but till when will this game ends ?

Fresh Election the only answer.

The rakyat need to work lah YB?

And counselor Dato,pemakaian bahasa sewaktu ditemu bual oleh pemberita bukan 'beliau' tetapi harus merujuk kepada 'Pekenan Baginda'.

Gunakan bahasa yang betul Dato Counselor,tidak tertib merujuk Tuanku sebagai 'Beliau'

Adap Dato Counselor,adap !!

One of the subject and am sure all in the legal fractinity uphold is 'Legal Etiquette' inparticular in the language usage either in English or in Malay.

'Ladies glow'
'Gentleman prespire'
'Only horses sweat'

Ugly Day

Ugly Day............. !!

Memalukan !!
Memudaratkan !!
Kanak-kanak menglihat perwatakkan kamu !
Kamu berperwatakan saperti 'samseng jalanan'



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Pleased dont Ask Dumb Question and Give Pussy Answer YB !!!

Pleased lah YB.....dont ask question unrelated to the intrest of the Melaka people.
Two diffrent state with two conflicting set up.
State Assembly is a noble place.Help us,we help you.
Read here

Pleased lah YB!!
Concentrate on how to pump money into Melaka.
Irrelavent and related issue is out.

Money is dry man !!!

This is no laughing matter !

I recieved a suprising mail containing some probably trail exam paper of our STPM boys.I have to edit the identity of the candidate and the good school from being drag to a major issue.
It was a while ago I wrote a short sinopsis on the topic.Heres the link

However,let me remind you the answer script does not come from my former alma,but that doesn't means there is none on the discovery channel !!
Be aware of that,Cikgu pleased !!

I am speechless,stunt by the write up answer script.
Yes,it was hilarious.
Probably,the exam was held on the April Fool's Day.
I leave it to the benefit of the doubt.
The exam paper was Sejarah (History).

The Sijil Tinggi Persekolahan Malaysia(STPM) or HSC/STP during my days was the last bastallion before one enroll to a university or start a working adult life.
The paper consist of 2 paper.
Sejarah 2,that is History of Asia Tenggara ,Jepun and India and History 4 consists of Sejarah Islam dan Sejarah Islam di Malaysia or a student could opt.for Sejarah 3 thats European History.

A student has to pass both paper with a minimum C to obtain a principle pass.

Go ahead have a good laugh.
This is a real answer script from our Sixth Form boys back home down south.
As far as I could recall,getting a place in the Sixth Form in a fully govenment school are based on the over all SPM examination.and a student must perform reasonably well to be selected to be in the Sith Form.

But....how come there's an odd one in the class ?
I find it amusing and thought provoking.
Check,Recheck or rebounce.

Take it as a good rememberence of the yester years I reckon.
Me,I'm no perfect on my examination answer either.

For much better viewing,view with Picasa

What !!!!!!!! Name a school after a Chief Clan !!!!!

I wonder whether naming a school after our fore father does bring good to our children.
Read the news.

Is Mr.Yap, a real philatrophist or only a story of from rag to riches?

I doubt it.What say you?

Why barking at the wrong tree, Mr.Ong?

Its a irrelevent issue.

hmmmm...........think about it !!!!.Prof.

Atas Nama

Ada diatas nama Tuhan, melecetkan Tuhan,
Ada yang diatas nama negara ,merampok negara,
Ada yang diatas nama rakyat ,menindas rakyat,
Ada yang atas kemanusiaan, memangsa manusia,
Ada yang diatas nama keadilan meruntuhkan keadilan
Ada yang diatas nama persatuan, merosak persatuan,
Ada yang diatas nama perdamaian,mengusir kedamaian,
Ada yang atas nama kemerdekaan,memasung kemerdekaan

Maka,
atas nama apa saja atau siapa saja
Kirimlah laknat kalian
atau atas nama aku perangilah mereka dengan
'kasih sayang'

Mestro Pak Idris Sardi

My 2 Able Young Ladies and Two Able Young Man.

Aimi Dear

When the going gets tough,the tough gets going'.
We can pleased people sometimes but not all the time.
Yeap,when we are in the acedemic world and far away from home,all sort of consideration came across our mind.
Be in command.
You are one brave young lady and I am proud of you.
Your consistent and determination since wee lad,shows the quality in you.
We love you and pray for your success.
Stay focus.

Nana,

Focus,focus and focus.Keep the violin in tune.
SPM 2010.
hmmmmmmmmm.......Physic,Add Maths and Bio pleased.
Medical Fac.pleased.

Abang,
You're almost there!!
Sharp,witty and be kind to fellow human.
Look each and everyone,eye to eye.!!
Dalam dunia kerjaya 'tikam dari belakang perkara biasa' !!.
Tabah dan pasrah.
Finally,get the most expensive leather shoes,pleased !.
Locke or Berret is a good pair.
It represent character.

Afly,
Your 'A' Level pleased.
Good Architecture School are really demanding.
There is always hope with determination,effort and persistency.

Papa loves you all.

There is Hope !!! yes,there is 1-Malaysia !!

Y.A.A Dato Gopal Sri Ram.
Yes.....yes some fundamental judgement absolutely agreed upon.
Tan Teck Seng v Suruhanjaya Perkhidmatan Pendidikan,Rama Chandran,Sugumaran Bala Krishna,was the classic example your fine sound judgement,sir.
The extended version of the late Lord Denning.
Your fine defination, on our Article 5 of our Federal Constitution tourches our heart sir,however,your superior learned brothers, said otherwise.

Any chanches to unschackle the shackle sir?

Will be waiting in tense on your new land mak decision.
Pleased sir, extend your service at the pleasure of our Mejesty The King.
All in the name of 1-Malaysia.

Y.A.A Dato Hj.Hishamuddin Md.Yunus.

Sir,how I do look forward your brave and able to call a spade a spade.
I cherish your judgement and study with great depth your decision on Jesus Jamaluddin case and many more.

The 'Legal Robin Hood ' if I may call it.
You are our savior to the path for reconstruction on our judiciary independency,Yang Arif.

As per in judgement of Raja Azlan Shah C.J (as he was then) in DBKL v Sri Lembah Enterprise,

'...unfettered discretion is a contradiction in terms...Every legal power must have legal limits,otherwise there is dictatorship...'

The road for legal reconstruction is well on the way.

Bravo.At least the is some hope.Insyallah.

Dont rock it only drift and rake it,Yang Arif.!!

Bravo to Judicial Leader.

What is Your Hope Now !!

hmmmmmmmmmmm.............Sukran ya Allah.
Taqaballahu Salihul A'mal Hayakumullah

AlamNo !!!! UMNO?

Pilih antara satu Wang,Ali atau Balaba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ciiissss........sampai ceret.....
hu.........dia banyak ...tang
lepas tu....camna!!!!!!!???#%%%%^!!!!!)*(()^^^$$$$$

The Complete Minangkabau Man - Al Fatiha

1.I recieved this mail from my sister Bunda quite a while ago.

2.Herman Jambak was the direct 2nd.generation desendent of the late Almarhum.
More info of the late Sheikh Sulaiman AlRasuli pleased find the link here.

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Syekh Sulaiman Arrasuli yang lahir pada tahun 1871 adalah seorang tokoh Agama, Adat, Politisi, Pendidik, dan juga Saudagar.

Beliau mendirikan organisasi, yaitu Persatuan Tarbiyah Islamiyah (PERTI) pada tahun 1928 yang selanjutnya menjadi salah satu partai dari beberapa partai yang ikut serta dalam setiap pemilu, dari 1955-1971, kemudian Perti bergabung menjadi salah satu bagian dari Partai Persatuan Pembangunan (PPP) sejak pemilu 1977. sebelum wafat beliau berfatwa agar Tarbiyah kembali ke khittah sehingga Perti berubah menjadi Partai Pergerakan Tarbiyah Islamiyah, dan pengikutnya yang lain membentuk Tarbiyah (Persatuan Tarbiyah Islamiyah). Beliau pernah menjadi Ketua Sidang I Konstituante pada th. 1955

Beliau mendirikan sekolah agama dengan mengembangkan system pendidikan yang sekarang dikenal dengan Pesantren, dan sampai saat ini sekolah-sekolah Tarbiyah tersebar di pelosok negeri di Indonesia, bahkan alumninya tersebar sampai ke negeri jiran dan Madagaskar.

Beliau juga menjadi tempat bertanya para niniek mamak dalam hal adat istiadat Minangkabau, salah satu buku yang beliau tulis adalah “Adat dan Agama”.

Bersama-sama dengan beberapa Saudagar Minang beliau mendirikan Bank Swasta pertama di Indonesia, yaitu Bank Nasional.

Wassalam & Regards,

Herman Jambak

Jl. G Kav. No. 23A Kebon Baru Tebet Jakarta 12830 Indonesia M. +62811961908

Journey of Brother and Sister Part 1

Women of Substance by Barbara Taylor Bradford.It was a while back I read this emotional classic.A poor country girl,unfortunate circumstances fleed to big city London and make it good.
I am not a book reviewer neither my intention to write a sinopsis about the novel or films.Yes,it was also a hit tv series.Worth checking it out.I am sure a few pearl drops would do us good.

My,thought came running on Emma,the main character in the Jane Austen classic,
the 18th.centuary romantic novelist of the 'Pride and Prejudis' and 'Emma'.Those two classic would be a must in-cart for those into the literature.

Co-incidently the name reminds me of my youngest sister Emma in the land of white Dove.She's my most loveable sister of the two other sister of mine.
Her journey to London,England begins way back in 1983 in the pretext of studying.Study she did.I was still at my 2nd.year in the Poly then,we took the flight together on Thai Airways via Bangkok transiting.

Within a nick of a time,believe me we almost missed the flight,while in transitting .

Here's the story.

It was Emma's maiden,flight to anywhere.It was the furthest she's been,from a sleepy hollow Malacca.

At Subang International Airport,I met a dear friend of mine Zaini,she's was based in Bangkok,a stewardess with The Royal Saudi Airline.
She invited us to her apartment in down town Bangkok,knowing we has a few couple of hours before taking the connecting flight to London,Heathrow.

Zaini,gave us a good meal and a proper scrub on my hair by a Malaysian hair sylist in Bangkok.Talking about hair ,you bet mine that scruffy and weird long.Zaini insist that I had my hair cut.I obliged to her request.The visit to the saloon does do me an instant reformation.

Thanks Zai!!!I remember and cherish that!!
She send us back to the airport on time and I still have an hour or so before depart.I check in straight away and linger around at the transit lounge together with Emma.
I was so careless for not being prompt on the time,coz'at that particular era I do not own a watch.Well,it was not hip to wear a wrist watch,such was a hippy altitude then.

I was so into linggering at the transit lounge,I didn't notice or hear,our names was call out on the public announcement.It was merely 5 minutes before the flight take off,then I realised we had missed the flight.
We straight away dash to the entrance gate to catch the flight.
Mind you,the airport in the 80's were still in it manual stage.
One has to embark on the runways,a bus would take us to the desginate plane,but mine,I was so sure the plane to Heathrow was the one I saw at the entrance were already moving.
We make a dash to the runway.Me waving and screaming like a damm fool!!to the flight captain,I could see the captains cockpit from a distance,begging him to stop the plane.

One kind hearted ground staff,managed to radio the captain and after a few interception the moving plane,stilt for us.We board the plane in split second.
When we board the whole passenger in the plane did that stared look on both of us,probably,questioning mentally,how on earth those two 'wogs' managed to board the plane?

It was a smooth ride after the incident but upon safely arrived at Heathrow after the back breaking journey and another incident at the Immigration counter.!!

Indeed,it was the begining of a journey on the road of no return....!!


Pak Tuo

Not What You Spent but How You Spent On?

'.....if the taxpayers are helping you,then you have certain responsibilities to not be living high on the hog'

-President Barack Obama



hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................


Pak Tuo

'The God Father' - Exemption Clause

I pick this bits and pieces quite a while ago,when I first started blogging.

It's 'looks' like a rule,sound like 'the' ruled and 'executed' by the rules.

*****Don Tomasino to Don Carlone :

deep husky voice:'...hey Mike!!! theres to many evil in this world!!'

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1.I don't use my blog as a space to rant about things I can't handle in real life, or to attack, retaliate or hit out at someone I know personally with whom I can't do so in person.

2.I believe if you can't face up to reality, don't create an alternate reality just so you can be boss in your little corner of cyberspace. What prompted me to write this now? Simply, I witnessed a couple of people who used their blogs as an extension to an argument they had otherwise relinquished in real life. In reality, they said they had spoken their piece and was done with it.

3.In the blogosphere, it seems they aren't actually done with it yet. Too often people use blogs to make themselves out to be the victims in an argument. Last month, there was a similar incident where, again, the person went on her blog and ranted about how she had been wronged.

4.Like I said, if you can't face up to reality, don't use an alternate one to validate youself. It's dangerous to live in an unreal environment and think that the response you get in that space is somehow valid. Your readers and commentors don't know you personally; the only side of you they see is what they read on your blog. Some commentors can be dangerous too. "Oh, don't worry, I've never met you but you feel like an old friend to me, and I know you're not that kind of person."

5.I think ignorant comments like this do not help the delusioned blogger. If you've never met the person, then you've never met that person. Don't think that you know them just by their online persona, because nine out of ten times, people's online personae are the complete opposite of who they really are.

6.It's also dangerous because things become one-sided and no one really knows the truth except to rely on the blogger's version of it. And what's worse is when some bloggers decide to name the people they're ranting against. Then you're involving a person's reputation and if your story is half-true or fictitious (as most of these rants are anyway), you could be held accountable for defamation.

7.My rule in blogging is simple. If I can't handle it in real life, then I don't blog about it. What's the point? What good would it really do? Isn't it akin to talking to myself? If I have a problem with someone, I duke it out person to person, face to face. I admit, I've tried out a bitching space before, but I got tired of it because my problems didn't really go away, and nothing felt like it had any closure.

8.And then there are those who confuse being outspoken with being rude and obnoxious. Hell no, they're not one and the same.

9.Bitching is not being outspoken. It's just angry, pointless and unconstructive ranting. Unless, of course, it's not personal and/or to parody an issue or something.

Hail to Bloggers!!!

Pang Chin Hock v PP - An Appeal to Federal Court.

PHANG CHIN HOCK V. PUBLIC PROSECUTOR

FEDERAL COURT [KUALA LUMPUR]
SUFFIAN LP, J, WAN SULEIMAN, FJ, SYED OTHMAN, FJ
[CRIMINAL APPEAL NO. 27 OF 1977]
21 AUGUST 1979
Order accordingly.

JUDGMENT

Suffian LP (delivering the judgment of the Court):

In this security case tried in accordance with the Essential (Security Cases) Regulations, 1975, ("the regulations"), the appellant was convicted of the offence of unlawful possession of six rounds of ammunition contrary to s. 57(1)(b) of the Internal Security Act, 1960, and sentenced to death.

We dismissed the appeal and now give our reasons.

First, it was said in effect that the conviction was against the weight of evidence. We were of the opinion that there was ample evidence to justify the conviction and that the learned trial Judge was right in concluding on the evidence that the defence had not thrown any doubt on the case for the prosecution.

Secondly, arguments were raised based on the Constitution. Three points were made.

It was said first that in view of Art. 4(1) of the Constitution which reads:

4. (1) This Constitution is the supreme law of the Federation and any law passed after Merdeka Day which is inconsistent with this Constitution shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void." and of the definition of "law" and "federal law" in Art. 160(1) which includes "any Act of Parliament" any Act of Parliament which amends the Constitution, as is allowed by Art. 159, is valid only if consistent with the Constitution, and that any provision in it, which is so inconsistent, is, to the extent of the inconsistency, void.

Secondly and alternatively, it was said that even if amendments made by Parliament in accordance with Art. 159 may be inconsistent with existing provisions of the Constitution, nevertheless the Court should read into the Constitution implied limitations on power of Parliament to destroy the "basic structure" of the Constitution, which, it was submitted, includes the following features:


(a) supremacy of the Constitution;


(b) constitutional monarchy;


(c) that the religion of the Federation shall be Islam and that other religions may be practised in harmony;


(d) separation of the powers of the three branches of Government; and


(e) the federal character of the Constitution.

This list may be compared with the features of the basic structure of the Indian Constitution given at p. 165 by Sikri CJ in
Kesavananda Bharati v. State of Kerala
[1973] SCR Supp. 1 AIR [1973] SC 1461 as follows:


(a) Supremacy of the Constitution;


(b) Republican and Democratic form of Government;


(c) Secular character of the Constitution;


(d) Separation of powers between Legislature, Executive and Judiciary; and


(e) Federal character of the Constitution.

Thirdly, even if the Emergency (Essential Powers) Act, 1979 ("Act 216") is valid, ss. 2(4), 9(3) and 12 thereof are void as they destroy the basic structure of the Constitution.

Thus there are three issues here.

First, do Parliament have power to make constitutional amendments that are inconsistent with the Constitution?

Secondly, if Parliament have power to make constitutional amendments that are inconsistent with the Constitution, do they have power to make amendments that destroy the basic structure of the Constitution?

Thirdly, have ss. 2(4), 9(3) and 12 of Act 216 destroyed the basic structure of the Constitution and are they therefore void?

To summarise, our answers to the three issues raised are:

1. Parliament have power to make constitutional amendments that are inconsistent with the Constitution.

2. Parliament may amend the Constitution in any way they think fit, provided they comply with all the conditions precedent and subsequent regarding manner and form prescribed by the Constitution itself and it is unnecessary for us to say whether or not Parliament's power of constitutional amendment extends to destroying the basic structure of the Constitution.

3. Act 216 is constitutional. Whatever may be the features of the basic structure of the Constitution, none of the constitutional amendments complained of and none of the impugned provisions of Act 216 have destroyed the basic structure of the Constitution.

Order accordingly.

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Persoalan Utama penhujahan YAA-YAA,

1.Boleh kah Perlembagaan Malaysia dirombak oleh Parliament?

2.Dirombak ke arah mana?

3.Sekiranya boleh apakah syarat-syarat dan sekatan-sekatannya?

4.Apa kah rangka utama ie.basic structure Perlembagaan kita?

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hmmmm.........pi mai,pi mai tang tu jugak!!!!fikir-fikirkanlah.

'A case a day,makes the Dr.go away'

We Are Trully Malaysian here and Forever.

hmmmmmm.........I pick it up from here.

1. We are a unique nation filled with beautiful and caring people.

2. We loved and respected our past and present leaders then.

3. We were proud of our football, hockey and badminton teams who brought us joy, pride and a Malaysia Bersatu!

4. We waved excitedly and proudly when our Sultans and Agung drove past on the roads.

5. We sang Negara Ku with pride and gusto at Stadiums more so when the team was winnning but 10 decibels louder when our Agong came in the rain and sat at Stadium Merdeka to cheer with the rakyat.

6. We obeyed the law, respected the Police and was fiercely patriotic especially against our brothers in Singapore!

7. Our children schooled together, games together, ate together and kept friendship bonds thru many school reunions , hari raya's, Chinese new year, deepavali and Xmas... yummy food..

8.We knew our friends mothers, family and ran away when we saw their fathers come home...

9. We had a Malaysia Bersatu, where is it now...?

10. we all know the answer, corruption, racial emotions, party politics, bad governance from all leaders and authorities, a lack of concern for the man on the street despite all the drama and hype on TV and papers but yet NO actual genuine concern. They called it photo opportunity or party gimmick to please the crowd.

11. Wahai leaders, are you listening? Pray tell me then, do you knnow the price of a kilo of rice, of red chili, of ikan kembong or jenahak? When was the last time dear YAB/TB did you drive personally to fill up petrol or buy gardenia bread froma 7-11?

12. Go back to rukun negara, barisan kita and you will find Malaysia Kita again.

Juswan Justis

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Tabik Mr.Juswan Justis,where ever you are sir.

Penghormatan Bukan Dipaksa.

'Listen a hundred times; ponder a thousand times; speak once.'

'Its the man and not the rank'.

Indeed,why dont we go back to the times when each and everyone of us Malaysian donate $1 each to watch the Football World Cup live during the early 80's?

Kasi Hantam Sajalah.....!

Pokok Ipoh adalah sejenis tumbuhan yang terdapat di hutan Malaysia serta di negara-negara ASEAN yang lain. Nama sainsnya Antiaris toxicaria Lesch.
Pokok Ipoh mempunyai getah beracun yang digunakan sebagai racun untuk hujung sumpitan orang asli. Racun ini bertindak dengan serta-merta dan akan membunuh mangsa yang terkena sumpitan. Untuk mengelakkan keracunan kepada pemburu, bahagian daging pada mangsa perburuan akan dipotong dan dibuang. Ciri-ciri daun pokok Ipoh ini ialah hujung daunnya berbentuk tirus,oblong elliptik,pangkal daun berbentuk bulat. Secara umumnya daun pokok ini adalah nipis.

hmmmm..........kamik nak gi kemeh!!!!!!

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I took a walk to the Ibu Thein Memorial Muzeum while I was in Jakarta 2 weeks ago.
To those whom does not know who Ibu Thein is,well....she's meet her lord.
She was the Indonesian first lady.The well fed first lady.

Stepping into the gallery,a gallery full with presents, presented to her while she was the first lady.
My oh my......the collection whooophs..wow..amazing collection!!
There is this one massive big huge tree I reckon its Meranti,chengal,Jati a size of a badminton court,a height a guess of at least 50 feet or more being on display.
The very least the age of the tree is 200 years old.
The amazing thing is the tree was dug so deep and it roots are still hanging and left dry for the artistic effect.

The tree branches are left to natural dried.
The miracle of the tree is, someone or rather a group of master craftmen were commission to crave the epic of Ramayana and Mahabrata on the tree trunk.
Yes....full story epic of the Hindu epic story on a tree trunk varnish to absolute perfect craft and presented to the late Ibu Thein as a present for X'mas.

Wow....stepping out of the gallary,reminds me of my beloved ibu's firm advised on my first day at school in 1966.

Wir..,"didunia ini tidak ada tempat untuk orang yang tidak bersekolah".

The master craft who crafted that piece of epic,did really goes to school,
and school he does and no 'University' in this world would dare to challenge his ability of his skills,patience,preserverence,determination on his mastercraftmenship.

But what wonder me most is why cut down a tree to give the first lady a X'mas present????

Was it an ego trip?
The taker would gladly accepts it!
It would be not polite not to accept a present given but I am sure the tree hurts when his trunk was curved for public exhibit.

Might be the tree soul would cried out loud,

'.......look at me,I'm no fool no more than you do?

Possibility to put up a mamak rojak stall beneath the tree with lot's of sotong and cendul pulut, eeek.......!!!
Will be queing together with Ipoh's amoi.
Ayo...ma!! Ipoh mali,ma!! manyak cantik lol!!

That's rakyat's staple diet we are talking about,man!!!!!!!.

I say...Free Birdddddddd.....What say you!!